I fully understand the man is controversial to say the least, I’m not a huge fan myself, but I think that if he was legitimately a Nazi, that he’s smart enough to not outright advertise it.
Socially awkward, autistic, right winger - Yes
Literally a Nazi - No
Bring on the downvotes 🤣
Posting this to sticky it in the comments.
This post is somewhat in the realm of rule 1 (no politics), but it’s highly topical (for better or worse) and not specifically political. So as long as the discussion remains civil and without devolving into endless volleys of Godwin’s Law, I’ll allow it. Please don’t make me regret this lol.
I appreciate the openness but it’s almost certainly a matter of time.
Keep your finger on the lock button. It’s somewhat underutilized on Lemmy imo, simply locking a post that has devolved into a shitshow without removing said post is frequently the best course of action.
How dare people call someone acting in bad faith defense of a Nazi a Nazi supporter.
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/261:_Regarding_Mussolini
You can say I’m acting in bad faith, that’s your opinion that you are entitled to, I’m telling you I’m not.
The reality of the situation is that you simply disagree with my opinion but you’ve chosen to attack me rather than the substance of what I’m saying. It’s called an ad hominem.
Dude, this isn’t an unpopular opinion, it’s rage bait.
Elon Musk is the rage bait.
Family was literal Nazi’s, has been known to speak positively of Nazi policy, now does the actual salute, twice…
Yeah… your not gonna convince me man… if it looks like a Nazi and smells like a Nazi…
Flat out wrong. You’re naive and evidently a nazi sympathizer. No one asked you to come out and try to give Elon cover for doing the salute… twice but you took it upon yourself to do exactly that.
Godwin’s law.
Congratulations on having the debating skills and etiquette of a child.
Ya started a thread about a Nazi’s, literally using it in the title but now you want to cite Godwin?
That is objectively hilarious.
I quite literally said “not Nazi”, but I guess that in pigeon chess, you make up the rules of engagement.
Haaaa. My god dude, you set the table for this discussion. I’m sorry your unpopular opinion post was unpopular? Hard to imagine any other outcome tho.
Even with the quickest glance for context you can see quite that Elon also aligns himself with Germany far right party members who have been jailed for using Nazi slogans and idelogy.
Germany’s domestic intelligence agency has put the AfD — a party known for hardline stances against immigration and Islam — under surveillance for suspected right-wing extremism, which the party denies. Figures in the party have been accused of using Nazi slogans in speeches and downplaying the Holocaust.
Stop defending and downplaying Nazis dude. It’s not hard.
Pro-genocide ADL:
“It seems that @elonmusk made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute”
Weird that you’re using the exact same wording.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5097676-elon-musk-defended-salute-criticism/
Seeing as they were founded to fight anti-Semitism, I’d expect them to know a Nazi salute when they see one.
"Anti-Zionism is antisemitism.”
—Anti-Defamation League CEO, Jonathan Greenblatt
- Organizations can have multiple goals, and change over time
- I know and love many Jewish people. Opposition to Israel and genocide is not antisemitism.
- Supporting Palestinians’ right not to be killed is not antisemitism
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/jan/05/adl-pro-israel-advocacy-zionism-antisemitism
Corporate wants you to find the difference between these two pictures
Not your fault, but that has to be the worst quality and captioning of that gif I’ve ever seen!
made an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm
Twice. Once, maybe it was an unfortunate, awkward moment. Twice? Ehhhhhh, doubtful.
The most charitable thing I can say is that if he’s not literally one, he’s signaling the ones who do identify as such.
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/10/nx-s1-5252473/elon-musk-germany-election-afd-candidate-alice-weidel
He only supports a far right wing german party that has used nazi slogans and symbols
dO yOuRe OwN ReSeArCh!!
Seriously, actually do it instead of being fed propaganda
If it looks like duck…
Funny that you use the wording of the ADL…
You’re not going to convince me that he’s not a nazi even if he somehow didn’t intentionally perform a nazi salute - he IS awkward, after all, but everything he’s saying and doing shows that he’s a rightwing extremist, i.e. a nazi.
I feel like he was supposed to be throwing out his heart tbh, as he said at the same time “my heart goes out…”
Which might have been an attempt at maintaining plausible deniability.
I doubt he’s stupid enough to not write and rehearse his speech
I think he is
Everybody who denies that this was a Hitlergruß denies a wall is a wall because it isn‘t 100% vertical.
America is a Nazi country now. Simple as it is.
I agree- I think he should still apologise though. Even if it’s kind of tounge in cheek like “sorry, I was excited, I did not mean to cause any offence” although maybe that’s me being British.
The second time he did it, it seemed to be more of a wave than a salute, which makes it apparent.
And that’s ignoring the fact that he said “my heart goes out to you” before touching his heart, and “throwing” it.
Not an unpopular opinion.
It is on Lemmy!
