Removed by mod
They keep claiming all immigrants are dangerous criminals, while not being at all concerned that a dangerous criminal is in charge of the government
Removed by mod
I think it’ll take a collapse of America and complete restructuring of the government to fix things
Removed by mod
Yea, laws are made up. So is currency, boarders, sovereignty, human rights, and democracy. Made up things are consequential.
Exacly this, all of pur societally functioning things are based on our exceptance of enforcing rules upon purselves. Without laws, you can’t have human rights.
Absolutely and that is what makes what Trump is doing so fucking dangerous. He is actively undermining the US government, once the vast majority of people no longer believe in the government it wont be.
Well yeah. Everything we do in society from laws to customs to fads are just made up things we go with. Thats what makes religious folks to tend toward nuttiness as it can often go down the path of. So and so rule came from GOD!!!
There’s no law of gravity, it’s just curved spacetime! *jumps off a cliff
There are laws. We made them up.
Congratulations, you have discovered the starting point of anarchist philosophy. Please, read further. It’s good stuff.
But morality wasn’t (unless you are, and may the Creator forgive me for uttering this word, a relativist), and that’s important to remember! Ideally, laws follow from moral truths but alas…
Any claim of universal system of morality existence shatters at the minutest contact with history.
The idea of morality is dominant and potentially universal across human societies. The actual definitions are invented and reinvented constantly and fairly rapidly.
Just because people have been wrong in their understanding of right and wrong many times and in many places does not mean objective, factual things cannot exist and be said about them. I’m sure that if we sat down the entirety of humanity to talk about it, we’d reach consensus about everything major and simple and concessions about anything minor and complex (and we’d understand the Ted Bundys of the world and their utterings in the similar fashion to our understandings of people born with major genetic defects… without the moral disgust, ofc).
So why do you need an external creator to believe in them?
I don’t think you do necessarily… if you’re very clever, honest, empathetic and/or honourable, but it will certainly keep you more accountable and remorseful even in that case! And for the vast majority of people, who simply don’t have any of those qualities to the necessary degree to competently move around in the world righteously, belief in God and fear of the Day of Judgment will be the main/only barrier to stop them from transgressing greatly. It would certainly help in this amoral, self-serving, anti-intellectual, post-truth USA, for example (and don’t say these people believe in what Jesus believed in or anything like that, cause any cursory reading of the Sermon on the Mount could show you these so called religious people don’t conduct themselves in any prosocial, selfless way, nor do the believe God will judge them for their atrocities/troublemaking).
