I reported the guy after he doubled down. Waiting to see if the mods will do something or if I will have to block the comm.

Can you say that again without the misogyny?

I agree with everything you’ve said, except that we don’t have to wait for community to be built to work on the military problem. We can do both simultaneously.

The PSL (and others, but the PSL is the most notable ML-oriented organization in the US right now) are aware of the current realities, btw. Their position is that there is a groundswell of class consciousness that is growing, but still very small. Their strategy is to nurture that growth while simultaneously creating a cadre of trained political operatives to provide leadership for the moment when that class consciousness is large enough that the idea of subverting the military isn’t so laughable. It’s a realistic strategy that is based on 200 years of revolutionary history, and successes and failures.

You say it’s unrealistic, and yet every successful socialist revolution has had the backing of at least some of the military. This is the stupidest thing about liberals, they always imagine that the way the world is now is the way it will always be. But material conditions are constantly changing and what seems impossible now may seem inevitable tomorrow. But you’ll never know if you keep dismissing the people who are actually trying to change the world as LARPers.

And btw, while I’m too old to be considered for military service, at least one revolutionary party, the PSL, has specifically created strategies to insert members into the military to foment revolutionary fervor. So yeah, people are doing exactly the thing that you deride as “unrealistic.”

If that person is a fascist, then yes. And Cheney was a fucking fascist.

The “Not Voters” were such an insignificantly small portion of voters (ie, people who usually vote but abstained or voted 3rd party in 2024) that even if every one of them voted for Kamala, she still would have lost. Her failure was instead due to the Democrats fundamental refusal to see that the status quo does not work for regular people.

I don’t want to be neighbors with war criminals. The reason we are where we are today is because of collaborators like Harris white-washing the crimes of terrorists like Cheney.

That’s some lib shit right there: The man who illegally started a war, lied to congress to start another war, instituted a mass civilian bombing campaign, tortured innocents, and who left entire countries strewn with toxic waste, unexploded ordnance, and depleted uranium that will cause illness, birth defects, and death for centuries to come is a “warmonger.” You people’s attempt to rehabilitate the Bush criminals is disgusting.

Seriously! Who the hell is colleagues with war criminals?

What do you mean?

Of course. Serious revolutionaries know you must infiltrate or otherwise subvert the military to be successful.

Well, that’s the only peaceful way. Revolution is always an option. But also, as long as the economic system allows individuals to hoard vast properties, the wealthy will use their power to influence politics.

The silencing of r/hailcorporate was the first nail in reddit’s coffin and it was lauded by most of the userbase.

Yes, and why not? We have nothing to lose but our chains.

How about we seize all their assets and nationalize the companies so that the wealth is owned collectively and benefits everyone instead?

The idea behind end-stage capitalism is that capitalists have, by now, penetrated and seized control of every market in the world. This is important because capitalism requires ever increasing rates of profits or you will be consumed by your competitor. Since there are no longer new labor pools and resource pool discovery is slackening, capitalists no longer have anywhere to expand.

Therefore, capitalists begin turning their attention back home, cutting wages and social safety nets, and resorting to fascism when the people complain.

This is the end stage of capitalism. The point at which capitalists begin devouring their own. Rosa Luxembourg famously posited that at this point, the world can choose “Socialism or Barbarism.” In other words, we can change our economic system, or we can allow the capitalists to sink to the lowest depths of depravity and drag us all down as they struggle to maintain their position.

Of course, if the capitalists manage to get to space, that opens up a whole new wealth of resources, likely delaying the end of their rule.

Denial of the Armenian genocide might make Cenk a little bit more than an asshole. Sure the left needs allies, but we can do better than genocide deniers and secret Nazis. We have plenty of forceful and eloquent speakers who don’t have extremely questionable backgrounds.

No war but class war.

Typical libshit. When confronted by facts that contradict their worldview, they resort to ad hominems.

God, all you non-Americans really need to stop bragging. I’m way too jealous over here.